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Console, though I mainly use mobile because it is easier to access for me.

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I prefer console gaming

Console

Pc

Mobile games then: Clash of Clans Mobile games now: *Twerk Race 3D*

I am Not a Clash of Clans Fan, But I Will Play that Anyday Compared to what is Available Today 😭

Iam a competitive twerk race player

ive seen this ad countless times 💀

At least a comment from someone who ACTUALLY watched the video. Thanks!

@Miyarumeeha HOLLUP 😳

Cellphone java games were total top tier for me. It was the time of handheld gameboys, so mobile games devs tried to keep up with the level of entertainment. These werent much about graphics but purely about playability. And the use of HW buttons helped a lot. Java mobiles like Sony Ericsson k700i were so popular at my region that every kid had to had some. Titles like prince of persia, splinter cell, gravity defied, magnetic joe, playman series, worms, medal of honor, burnout, asphalt were extremely well put together.

❤ i thought i was the only one who remembered those times.

Ahh, did you hit right in the nostalgia with that that comment - 2005-2010, the golden age of mobile gaming :) I undug my old K770i only to find almost all the games you've mentioned still installed on it. At the time, Gameloft made a mobile Java version of almost every popular game - if they didnt struck a deal with a studio to make a mobile port of their games (like they did with Ubisoft), they made a mobile counterpart of the entire franchise, and since there was no online functionality to speak of, they actually had to put in effort to for people to buy them. Some examples off the top of my head: -Need for Speed -> Asphalt -GTA -> Gangstar -FIFA -> Real Football -Tekken/Mortal Kombat -> Medieval Combat -The Sims -> Miami/New York Nights -Rock Band/Guitar Hero -> Guitar Rock Tour -Super Monkey Ball -> Tropical Madness Games good enough to make 90's kids not regret not having a GameBoy.

God of war, return to castle Wolfenstein, doom, alien shooter and soooo many others❤

Splinter Cell series, Gangstar series, Nova

has anyone played diamond rush? that game was a nintendo ds level game

On a world level this may seem true because you're looking at a low percentage of actual gamers vs mobile users. But when you look at specific markets like Korea or china (or most of Asia?) Where there's a higher concentration of hardcore gamers, there's no downfall at all. The quality they produce there is insane: cross platform, the latest unreal, etc. But those games are region specific so the world wouldn't know much about it. I think you need to explore this. It's a very interesting topic.

Exactly, i’m fully support this comment. Simply take a look at asia region the mobile gaming industry is really thriving. Gacha game like gensin impact, arknights, TOF, etc. These type of game can generate hundred thousand even millions USD with pretty decent game quality. Not to mention other game of different genre like Mobile legend, AOV, or MOBA game in general. While some of them not thriving like they used to ,but they are popular enough to create an esport out of it with hundreds thousands dollar prize for the winning team. Some of the game I mention are game that figure out phone limitation and still giving their best to accommodate the user like using 2D asset instead of 3D asset or adding setting so user with low end phone can still play their game, while pushing the setting for higher end phone user. So while the gaming industry seems like filled with crappy game with not so good graphics, etc. some game still thrive while pushing the limitations of the higher end device, while still accommodate higher end device. The problem is most of the curent game in market is judge by top download. To do that you need to make the game catchy, clickbait, and advertise them to multiple platform like YT. The result is top gaming section filled with junk games where most of their money goes into advertisements rather than to development proses. These game only think about short term profit, since the over saturation of mobile gaming industry making long term profit making seem not viable. While game with reaaaalllyy good quality with long term development in mind goes unnoticed in top chart get sweep away by crappy game.

But they are full of microtransactions with ads with pisspoor gameplay to cash out their own citizens.Nobody wants those 😂

Mobile game is doomed to die, those people played mobile game because they couldn't afford to buy a PS5, Xbox, Switch or PC. or a very casual game for your Grandma like candy crush let's be real, everyone at this point already get Carpal Tunnel and Bad Vision from playing mobile game. that was a hefty price to pay for no benefit at all. it's not the best platform to play, it's only good for Gambling based game. it's a cash grab platform that offer little to no value, unlike the Real Game that made with love in Console / PC. the moment people get a decent amount of paycheck in real life, they will instantly switch into Console & PC gaming. that's why basically nobody in the US played a mobile game, because they already had a superior one once you have a console & pc, you won't feel any need to touch mobile games anymore. Unless you're trapped with friends who force you to play gacha game a lot.

​@Jensen Raylight simply wrong

As a mobile game developer for over 7 years the mobile platform is different because the OS updates are annual and you must support at least the oldest device available every year in accord to the platform to gain the widest audience as much as possible. Finding the midline performance is a must because people do not update phones often and having the latest and greatest tech means the older device will not be able to play the game due to OS/Hardware/Software limitations.

What company you work in?

Why not use a performance stress test (for like 30 seconds) to guage what the app is dealing with in terms of hardware. I know some apps auto detect what graphic settings based on the hardware

This is the answer I was looking for, thank you The simple explanation of "there are thousands of devices" didnt make sense to me bc that's arguably even more true with PC gaming But ofc, all PC gaming is done in one (well, 2 now thx to Valve but you dont develop for it) single OS...

@Robin Nash Yeah mobile software and hardware more less come and go due to the nature of its rapid evolution year over year, even the development tools needs to get updated annually in order to submit your programs to the storefront otherwise using the 'outdated' tools and software will just void your submissions altogether., which is to say, too fast for a game development workflow which requires a substantial amount of time just to even finish anything polished.

Not to gatekeep. But mobile gaming has never been true gaming to me. It's always been mobile. The closest any game has come is pubg and Genshin.

The performance gap is not the issue, in PC games we have graphic settings to match the specs of the PC (resolution, frame rate, details, shadows etc). A set of options that many mobile games today have kept forgetting. Thus, also causing performance/heating issues on low end or old phones, effecting the general mobile usage experience. Its time mobile developers understand reality and high time Google/Apple sets some standards so that developers bring the best out of the Android Gaming experience while maintaining compatibility ❤

Explain that to a kid, a grandma or a parent. Let's see if they even know what an fps is or how it makes a difference when playing.

Hardcore gamers tend to dislike mobile especially microtransactions and would choose over a platform(pc, consoles) that is intended for gaming. Casual gamers don't care for fps or ray tracing. As a game developer why settle in a small set of hardcore audience when there are tons of casual players out there in the mobile market.

Touch screens suck. For me, before we even get to how poor quality the games are or even the performance issues, touch inputs aren't suitable for gaming. Even games like temple run that are built around touch inputs are so imprecise. I stopped playing temple run and subway surfers because even though I enjoyed the games, firstly, they grew stale pretty quickly and secondly, there's a low skill ceiling beyond which you can't improve that is imposed on you by the touch screen

​@Austine Declan fruit ninja is a great game designed for touch, on screen controls however suck (ex. the ones in emulators,2d games)

I am a proud PC Supremacist. Always have been, always will be.

I think the big problem is that most developers don't focus on keeping players. They focus on getting new players in the door cuz anyone can download for free, so as long as people leave some money when they walk out the door it's a win

Can't believe you didn't talk about simple greed on some mobile developers. Most of those mobile game ads look extremely similar, they have no soul to them. These games are made to generate revenue and nothing else. They shove ads in your face, and some charge obscene amounts to remove them.

So true. I just quit playing because it too much.

he’s done an entire extremely well written video about exactly that. but yeah, could have referenced it for sure.

He already made a video ro about that

If a mobile is free, that is the main way they earn money/revenue. Sure they may have purchases available, but if they’re small games with few developers, then it will most likely rely on ads.

Like @Name3615 said, he always covered that topic in a separate video! Including how sooo many mobile games are just another online casino in disguise😐

Mihoyo as a company standalone achieved most gamers have dreamt of ever since they started gaming, cross platform gaming experience at its finest. They are gonna benefit out of all their games as long as they keep bringing new content updates on regular basis. Prop ups to mihoyo

i think some mobile games now certainly do look better than before, but i feel like a big part of it is that developers have started treating phones as their own device type, instead of trying to just turn them into consoles, which in my opinion is a better decision. i'd say there are certainly plenty of high quality mobile games still as well, though for every well made one from devs like supercell, mihoyo, etc. there's a hundreds of crappy ones along the lines of the voodoo games.

Yes 100%. The barrier to entry is low (pointed out in the video). It's straight up just a byproduct of scaling the industry. Lots of swings, few wins. Normal in any competitive industry.

respect 3:36@Jon Chew

​@Jon Chewnot really in a competitive industry wise

This became really obvious to me when I bought Alien Isolation on Android a few months ago. The graphics in that game blew my mind (real-time lighting and shadows, lit volumetric smoke), I had no idea that a phone was capable of running such a graphically intensive game. Not to mention it was a fully single player campaign with no microtransactions or adverts which you don't see anymore. Now when I look on the play store, all of the 3D games just look generic and cheap.

I think a better comparison would have been to pc gaming instead since there are a wide variety of pc's with different specs ranging from blazing fast to moderately speedy. But still, game development has went on strongly on the pc market ever since pc gaming started. Mobile phones however, while they showed the same promise initally, the advent of microtransactions and other fast-track money making methods have simply killed it off.

You may notice the cycle a game goes through is relevant. Marvel Snap for example came out this year, was highlighted at the game awards just last week, and yet is already at the stage of spending their good will by silently removing features that benefit players and pulling content to sell it back to you. Console games do this a little, but it usually isn't in the very first year like Marvel Snap and other mobile games

In the era of Gameloft we used to have standalone single player campaigns with great great graphics. Be it novas or popular racing games to ubisoft titles like assassins creed to avater they were simply mind-blowing. 2012-14 was golden. Now Gameloft doesn't make any of those single player games with 0 online crap. And not sure if the contract that expired or something, the whole old library of games just disappeared into nothing

I hear you there. I remember loving modern combat 4 and very much looking forward to modern combat 5. When 5 came along it had all these energy systems and online nonsense and there was no way to simply enjoy the single player campaign. I checked recently and modern combat 4 is no longer on the play store. I miss the 2011 to 2014 glory days too.

Yeah man those are the days

Most probably they can't handle to support those game to be able to be played on newer android version.

@metalfeva And modern combat 5 energy system was added in a patch, such a downgrade...

Gameloft was the king of mobile in Java era. What about smartphone era? Well, maybe only asphalt series that was actually good.

This is why mihoyos big success and earnings from Honkai impact, to genshin, up to star rail are so unbelievable considering that most are playing their game as F2P. Their games are cross platform from mobile to pc and play station

Honkai: Star Rail has better quality than some of the latest AAA games. Its so dumb thinking about the current situation.

I actually want Mihoyo to make a premium full priced game mainly for PC and consoles and just sell it on mobile on the side. They've already got the resources AND the reputation, they could definitely go AAA with at least one title. I just wanna see what they can do without the restrictions of a gacha system.

​@McCaroni Sup i dont remember when i found abou it but mhy want to make fps game idk its freemium or not,i hope its not

@FDL That's interesting. Mhy seems to want to try all sorts of new genres now, an FPS game made in their style would definitely be interesting. It would likely be a hero shooter given the emphasis their games have on their characters, and I'm not a big fan of hero shooters that aren't Apex. But hey, maybe I'll like it.

​@McCaroni Sup free to buy with microtransactions is just too good to pass on for AAA titles. hoyo won't do that.

Congrats on 15 million, well deserved! Gonna catch up to and pass Apple in no time! 👏🏾😁

Not to mention that the best games on Android tend to be not that graphically inclined, my favorite recently has been mages survival which is surprisingly fun for just moving around and selecting the moves you want.

Man, I miss the times when getting excited for upcoming Mobile games and devices was actually something to look forward to. The anticipation of the Sony XPeria Play's announcement and NVidia Tegra 2 chipset devices were insane! Games like Gun Bros, Dead Space, Assassin's Creed, all were so goddamn awesome. Goddamn Call of Duty Black Ops Zombies and Battlefield were on there for crying out loud! Many indies started out here too such as Dungeon Defenders. Glu, Gameloft, Halfbrick and heck, even Triple A developers were HUGE back in the early 2010s. Now what do we have? Thousands of apps being SHAT OUT to the Play and App Stores... I remember when we couldn't wait to play Live Multiplayer coop in Gun Bros on Game Center and Game Spy when the update got announced. We got an entire feature trailer for it complete with 3D animation at the beginning! Now it's all just lootboxes and mindless micro-transaction...

A few years back Huawei was saying how they were going to put raytracing into their GPU SOCs until they got canceled and denied access to the finest of TSMC. To be fair its unlikely it would have been good, but we're missing out on a future where mobile game devs could have been integrating rtx into mobile games.

Steam Deck: "allow us to introduce ourselves"

@FireSonic101 yeah, steam deck is an awesome thing

Sorry i am late but ray tracing on mobile?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Most mobile game developer dont care that much about graphics let alone adding rt , also most mobile games are esports where fps are very important.

2D games like Chess and Scrabble are a better mobile experience. The peak of mobile 3D is when it augments a 2D interface like Pokémon Go. Nobody wants to play a fully 3D game without dual-analog or keyboard+mouse.

Ayy Chocolate rain!!

this is so true lol

I wouldn't say "nobody", considering the millions of users who have CODM or PUBG or RR3 or Vegas Gangster etc on their phones

Agree. Even Pokémon Go is still the gold standard for AR mobile games. Definitely something fun.

Tell that to the hundreds of millions of players who play PUBG, Cod Mobile and Fortnite.

Thank God for creators like Early Morning studios. Still make games with heart and soul to them

I think another reason mobile games look pretty much the same, compared with console and PC graphics having levelled up so much is display technology. Consoles are doing 4k easily now, and PCs are pushing 8k while most phone screens are 1080p (pretty much, usually some variant of FHD+ because it's not 16:9). Beyond refresh rates and maybe some slight improvements smartphone displays are pretty much at their limit. Putting a 4k screen on a phone usually eats to much battery to be genuinely feasible and 2k is such a weird wonky resolution most phones stick with 1080p.

As mobile gaming becomes more ubiquitous, we will likely see a push towards mobile games that are comparable to PC and Console. You are looking at this issue through western eyes, where you can choose between different platforms. Most of the world doesn't have that kind of money.

Who doesn't have money for any console also won't have money for things inside a mobile app.

​@Sascha Rsome people might not want to invest in a whole console, since it is expensive, but might be fine with mobile games

​@PeckyChicken Gamingtrue bro I agree

This is true for the most part but (as a lot of people have been mentioning) some gacha games have been setting pretty high standards for the quality of mobile games. And for me specifically mobile rhythm games are on another level of quality (although that is less graphically impressive and is a pretty small market)

I think phone manufactures like Samsung and Apple should step in and fund game developers so they can make higher end games but also the manufactures can market those games to only play on certain higher end models. That'd boost the demand for higher end phones.

I miss old mobile gaming so much, just the whole vibe it gave off.

The Java games were so good, and the first Android games came out. Gameloft and Miniclip had some excellent games.

Bro just wants likes

WHY WOULD YOU COMMENT BEFORE EVEN WATCHING THE VIDEO FFS AAAA

@Mattia Giambirtone you need to watch it too little boy

I love what you do with technology. Keep it up!

I hardly game on my phone, but I feel like they could easily improve this by adding a very low graphics option for those with shitty phones and those with the top tier ones still have the added benefit of having amazing graphics. Its just like what we have on PCs

Hey boss! Probably the only reason why the developers raised prices is because of 4K. When games were 480i, 720p, and 1080p the games were $60.

One big factor also affecting mobile gaming is 'Size' constraints. For ex. The size of cod : mobile is more than 10GB + . If people wanna install 2 good graphics games it will cost them 15-20GB of internal data and most of the time our storage is normally full or less available.

That why most phone release in 128gb standard

Nintendo switch have freaking 32gb, while most midrange phone have 128gb minimum, bad excuse

@No name 791 what do you mean bad excuse?

​@No name 791Well granted some games on the switch come in chips

The only problem for me on games right now is that it is not the same as before, i feel like some developers just gets greedy and they don't focus on the gameplay of the players, especially right now the games are full and full of ads to the point that you can't even play anymore. Weird games keeps on getting released, some has potential but its sometimes literally just unplayable.

Old school mobile gaming really was something else. Glad there are still some developers like Hoyoverse pushing the boundaries on what mobile games can be.

I avoid Genshin Impact by a tenfold. Remember it’s still a greedy gacha game with lootboxes. Plus, I personally found it very boring. I personally don’t understand why’d you do a lot of boring grinding for hundreds of hours, but, your tastes, your time.

​@CommentarySheep grinding, yeah, ever heard f2p? If you not want every character, that's fine

@No name 791 Genshin Impact sucks

​@Gurpreet Singh Agree

i have heard hoyoverse. they make genshin impact. you call it nice. i call it a huge time waste

The other thing I wonder: "Why don't they just have graphics options like PC games and the game can set the default based on the hardware and then users can change it for further quality/performance." But this probably has several issues too. It's probably not easy to automatically set the qualities for so much fragmentation. And even more important is that most mobile gamers are casual, and battery life is very important.

They already do that

@Another Aspect Ya im sure some do. But the video explains elsewhere.

I think they should separate the two variety of phones : the gaming one , and the multi-media one . That way you can atleast know what is the focus of your objective in making mobile phones . ( Gaming or Multimedia) .

Its happen before, Ngage or normal mobile It also happen now, either Nintendo Switch or Steamdeck But if you seperate it like that, the market of it pretty similar with that high-end phone, small ratio because why would you spend that much ? when you can spend isntead on Console or PC, the one bought that is the player want to portable gaming or rich

So: Xbox Series S (regular mobile) and Series X (ROG, Black Shark, Red Magic, etc.)

I think cloud gaming could bring a huge improvement to mobile gaming. We could play a full pc cod or forca on our phone with power consumption of watching a YouTube video and phone model would have almost no impact on performance. The only limiting factor for now is internet speed which will hopefully be improved in future.

You can already play CoDM though, it's basically black ops 2 ported to mobile with decent graphics

PS Remote play works well between my s23 ultra and my ps5. With a proper Nat type and my phone on 5GSA it's also nearly lag free at 8ms latency.

but it won't be free and mobile gamers don't play paid games

Geforce now is great

The problem is unlike pc games, most mobile games are more cpu heavy than gpu heavy so even if they release a game with different graphics for different phones, lower end phones will still end up with cpu bottle necking while the gpu is doing fine with the lower graphics the game provided...

I honestly think the mobile graphics have reached its peak and at the same time its hard to release top games knowing there's 80% of devices out there that can't handle it.

On top of mobile games, I also want to see more old console games being ported to the mobile platform. I can't stress how much of a good work Feral Interactive is doing on porting games such as Alien Isolation and Grid Autosport to mobile.

THIS. Also Wreckfest a game I could barely run on pc 6 years ago, now running on phones and looking almost better than the ps4 port.

That's how GTA mobile do.

Unless devs get good DRM like Gameloft they will not be going to port their old console games to mobile at all.

​@Axel Wolstenholme lmao you must be blind if you think it looks even close to the ps4 version. It looks far far worse as it should be

Emulation is king

You don't need a huge team to make a good game, it just take talent.

I remember the Infinite Blade games, which were great fun and using the newest iPhone. But seems, there are less and less such games. I think, Apple is trying to save good games with the Arcade, but more and more Arcade games are not using the full power of the devices, but are Freemium games without in-app ads and purchases…

Yeah, the Blades games were awsome! Netflix is actually also releasing some decent games these days, btw. And there are thankfully lots of neat paid indie games if that's what you're into 😊

I’m not a Gamer, but I’ve tried multiple games etc and I have to say console Gaming is definitely more comfortable. I’ve ran in to a lot of issues on PC, so that wasn’t fun. Mobile gaming is OK, but your phone heats up a lot when playing things like Genshin. It’s nice to see mobile getting things like Xbox cloud streaming so that’s a major win for gamers :)

I think you hit every main point. I agree with almost everything you brought up and I think the monetization platform is the biggest factor plaguing mobile games. As someone in beginning stages of developing an app we are actually shooting for full AAA quality but we have a few tricks up our sleeve. Monetization is purely through in app adds that are built into the game enviornment and help to enhance the experience instead of taking away from it. 2nd is that new platforms like unity 5 allow polygon scalling that can get really good looking 1080p graphics while still being easy on the phone battery. It is a racing type game so on screen controls are easier to handle but ideally it would target use with a controller for a truly console experience.

My biggest influence for the project or baseline we are targeting is gran turismo franchise how it provided a full feature game and online access only enhanced the experience but wasn't nessicary.

​@Dyne's Lairit was necessary

i feel like mihoyo is pushing that boundary. i mean genshin impact is just stunning and it is made specifically for mobile with the pc and ps versions as an add on. there are also other game compaines form china making much better games than the ones available globally. idk why maybe china has a more mobile gaming focus.

I recently got my 6-year-old cousin addicted to Plants vs Zombies on her mom's iPhone, and we can all agree that it's a better experience than any mobile game released in the past few years

yeah

accurate, I still love that game

i used to play Gangstar Vegas, it was the pinnacle of mobile gaming to me.

thank you

No why u let ur cousin get addicted to plant vs zombie...U should let ur cousin get addicted with learning 15 languages a year,learning how to be a doctor,a lawyer,an engineer,an inventor,politicans and etc

Very accurate. The games I play nowadays are not native android games unless they're casual. I only play old games on emulators like PSP and Dreamcast. Back in 2013/14, I always thought mobile gaming had the potential to surpass PC and console quality graphics. Now the best looking games are just a bunch of online games which is discouraging.

Mobile gaming has entered a decline ever since the development of console games and emulation. It's severely difficult to enter the mobile game market unless you have studio talent and intensive tech knowledge. This is also the reason gacha games from the east have been thriving with companies like yostar and hoyo. This sort of empty gap in the mobile market has been filled and taken advantaged of and is one of the reasons they have a large community base. You simply don't get too many quality games on mobile nowadays, or at least remain popular long enough to be the talk of the town.

I remember open world games with missions, good story and freedom and reasonably good graphics even though I started in 2016

The sheer production quality of this video is just stupidly unreal - in the very best of ways, of course!

The Nokia Ngage was the last true gaming phone. If phones today started to come out with switch-like controllers and each game had a game cartridge, then we might be on to something.

I remember playing all types of games on my mobile back in the day because all of them were way interesting like cut the rop,angry birds,asphalt,gangster Vegas,fruit ninja etc because they took advantage of the touch screen and made it fun but now it’s all micro transactions in a bad game that is made with very little work that isn’t fun to play at all

that's the only true reason ppl stopped playing mobile games.

Gangster Vegas was the shit

The worst thing is when every app is asking for subscriptions , loot boxes and other predatory practice for mobile games The ads are even worse

@Dominic Shiells Those episodic games that you find on ads are prob the worst type

@LOL *the* shit. Something being *the* shit means it was great

Id really like to know how your pulling off throwing phones behind you while someone is catching it out of frame, with enough precision that your not breaking phones every week.

you kinda touched on it when you said one factor is that back in 2012-14 was when smartphones were becoming very popular etc but i think a factor you didn’t mention, which i think i understand why, is that most of us that were young then have grown up and have busy lives now and the new generation just aren’t interested cause they have it all now and there’s too much to choose from

One big factor in my opinion is the lack of proper controls. You're limited to the touchscreen, you can't expect users to plug in a controller, so you can't really make a lot of compelling games with complex controls I think they should bring back the Xperia play

consoles lack controls for certain genres as well. different i/o leads to different genres that work well. There's plenty of compelling games on mobile, they're just different from games on modern consoles.

I think another thing is, that you constantly are forced to update your app on the (mobile) stores, since the operating systems keep getting updated, and at some point your game just might either ceise to work or even straight up deleted from the store (Apple App Store for example). For the consoles, these days after a frew stability patches, the games pretty much can run forever. For downloadable games at least as long as the stores themselves stay up. There are lots of great games on mobile that got deleted over time because the devs didn't want to or couldn't keep updating them. Geo Defense was such a Gem and even that one is gone now.

Google Play Store is just that bad lol

What's wrong with updating the apps

i know a few game dev. They said the first discount of the in app purchase is the most important. After that they dont even care if the players are leaving. They would make the game feels easy to play to build confident and to make you think that you are a great player and then the difficulty would spike OR the game become a chore to play. They would introduced an in app purchase to make it easier and would give you an illusion of discount with limited purchased time. Imagine if 10000 players pay 10 dollar on a cheap made game. lol

As far as most games go, you can never go wrong with emulations. Just make sure you have the space for this addiction

Emulators do not classify as mobile games tho, even if they can be.

@Spice Smuggler regardless, playing emulated console games is a better experience in almost all cases, unless a real game already has a good mobile port that you don't have to emulate, like Stardew Valley or Vampire Survivors for example. Also while touch controls might suck for majority of genres, turn-based games, or games where execution speed is not needed at all, work perfectly fine.

Playing an unofficial port of Hollow Knight and it looks far better than anything on the play store even pumped up to ultra graphics

​@Shajirr Yeah and even the when I play JRPGs with emulators on my phone, I still use a controller.

​@ShajirrI would rather play PS2 games in a tv screen than on a mobile phone way better experience

The last mobile game I put my heart into was a game called top eleven. It was so pay to win that I couldn’t keep up with the 30 ads a day watching to remain competitive. Everytime I tried to get back into it the ads would be crazy. I loved the game and put some money into it even. But it just got too much.

i think there should be a low graphics option so you can optimize for lots of phones

on point on what you said about mobile devs doesnt earn immediately, thats why most mobile devs today turn to ads to increase earning, thus making a cycle of game full of ads and uninterested customers and making the game even worse

the thing is developers could of pulled a AAA and made it with diffirent quallity presets and settings because it could have a wider audience play it, add microtransactions some skins and here is your profitable mobile game that looks good and is playable on all devices.

Finally someone talking about this, I also wondered why I could play Console quality game before 10-15 years but now we get garbage games with microtransactions

As an ex-Vainglory player, I am reminded that why the game failed (despite it's early success) was because only the highest-end devices can run the game smoothly, which creates a barrier for mid range and lower range mobile users from trying out their game, causing it to eventually phase out. It is also very storage intensive, and each match can take more than 30 mins (including matchmaking) to complete.

Vainglory 😢

Thats why Mobile Legends by MoonToon is very succesfull here in S.E.A. Countries Almost any phone can run it from low to mid to high end and even clone phones can run it

Main reasons why Vainglory and SEMC as a company failed were very bad financial decisions and the early efforts to put the game on Steam even tho it wasn’t ready at all (predominantly a consequence of the financial decisions). I played Vainglory almost since it’s release and loved it so much, it’s a real shame how it ended 💔 to this day I play a few games from time to time to remind me of the good old days:)

​@Ansg It sad cause I start playing vainglory in the end of it life cycle & it the only Moba game I like...

thats partly false. Yes, Vainglory runs better on high end phones, but its still playable on all mid end phones and some low ends, as it is very well optimized for such amazing graphics. The reason why it failed is that SEMC made a lot of poor financial decisions like having eSports and making skins too f2p friendly

One hope for mobile games is to go cross-platform, like what Genshin did. It looks great visually, you can play it at home on pc or ps4/5 and you can continue playing once you go out. Your progress is shared across all devices

True, another great example is Fortnite...fortnite came up with a system too, to identify whether your phone can handle the game or not, in my Case I'm using Galaxy A03 which can't handle every bit of it, so whenever I try to download it... the site just goes "Sorry your Phone doesn't meet System requirements" so I just end up playing it on the console instead, the main point is that if devs make a game that is not intended fully on just money but porting it on Phones that have the capability to run smoothly and flexible enough to be on cross-platform then that's a piece which can be pushed to greatness like Fortnite.

⁠@Them 2 WheelsFortnite on mobile is trash on any device.

@TheNightShot Yeah, well the fact that epic still filter phones based on Performance is still a great idea...and because of That I just ended up playing Fortnite on my PS5 instead.

@Them 2 Wheels No it’s not a great idea. Many phones that could actually run the game have been cut out because Epic sees nothing but business, and people are forced to spend money to buy the latest and greatest, just to get a subpar experience. And not only that, they also dare to lock down the settings! I want to freely control them, the way I want. I’m not letting anyone else make the choice for me.

@TheNightShot Alright, whatever you say man lol I'm not the type of person who comes to the internet to argue. You do you, if that's what you think so be it...plus I delete my comments when someone tries to argue and prove something simply because I just lay out opinions and I JUST DON'T SIMPLY CARE if you think otherwise...soo...yeah You could be right whether or not I DON'T CARE lol...and oh these comments will be deleted by the way...have fun talking to yourself.

Gaming in the 80's and 90's enteral bliss. Simply put, it was one of the best times to had been a gamer. You paid for the game & that was it. No strings attached. NO GREED.

NO GREED NO GREED!!!!!!!!!

Actually expanded my understanding of why mobile game apps suck. New idea, google/ apple should encourage quality games on a dedicated store. Edit: *oh wait they did try that*

i played like 10-20 games in smartphone, only 2 were online and very grindy, the rest are offline casual games that doesnt require that much phone power, but they are fun to play, mostly puzzle games, anything that require strategy and skill is my type i dont think ill ever need a phone beyond mid range ones, its not like im multitasking in my phone as if it is a pc

It's not just about power. It's about storage space aswell. A lot of devs are not bold enough to come out with a mobile game that's like 5 gigs lol and if they are, I guarantee their downloads are low.

Showing N.O.V.A 3 at the start and during the video was great decision. I remember playing this in 2016. My mind was blown clean off marvelling at this masterpiece. It's(present tense) still so good that i remember finishing its story 6+times, and recommend it to friends still to this day. This game is my benchmark to judge all shooting games, and sadly 95+% off games fail(im looking at you freefire).

FF was good tho but it also failed

Don't forget that 90% of all modern mobile "games" require internet connections to play, Gangstar Vegas was offline and is still my favorite.

@Headwreak I really hoped and predicted that Gameloft would become the prime mobile game developer for Shooters by releaseing N.O.V.A 4 ,but they never did( don't mention N.O.V.A legacy). For racing Asfalt 9, they did release this but nobody cares about mobile racing games much these days( hate the TouchDrive™ aka baby mode). For RTS and RPG's their pay2win system and ads basically demolished the ratings.

Gameloft was KING at its prime. No one could dare to touch Gameloft at that time. But the king died because most mobile gamers love casual shit unlike PC/Console gamers. Most people would never know there was an FPS CoD game for mobile in around 2014(excluding the pirates/explorers). If you know the name then it you know what I am talking about.

That was my all time favorite. The story the graphics was amazing. Sad it got worse in the later parts.

When it comes to graphical fidelity, storage is also a giant concern with mobile games. I'm developing one and it is constantly on my mind. You just dont have the drive space

Tell me when your game releases 🔥🔥

If you are talking about the us mobile games, then yes i can see this being the case. A lot of the games on the us play store are completely boring time sinks that really needs to have some kind of innovation to make them worth even looking at, but it is perfect for a lot of the mindless masses that are just looking for something to do during breaks or while in the restroom or something like that.

I remember having a Nintendo Dreamcast. You’d have a little tamagotchi built in the controller that could be adapted into your actual game console. This is something Sony should consider with something like Sims or something. Cross-platform games

Sega Dreamcast*

@No One ahh!! Sega!! Haha damn. Nice correction.

Same problem that PC. The platform has a large variety of hardware to accommodate. What I dont understand is why dont developers make less graphics intensive story-driven games for cellphones that are easier to play, but the answer is probably that its not theorized to be popular.

I want some big company, to go all out, just once on a HUGE GAME for phones, investing millions and making it the best possible experience ever (even if only 1/2 phones can play it) and see how it sells

seems like we wont get this atleast not in this decade

It’s crazy that we used to only get a couple videos a month and no we’re getting them what feels like everyday! Keep up the great work!

zip it up when you’re done

@Edward 😂

Nope. The algorithm on YouTube sucks. First video I seen all month. When you 👍🏿 and subscribe" like all subscribers ask you to do it puts the others to the bottom.

I think there is also a problem with mobile game expectations. People who mostly play mobile games want it to be free and they dont want to pay anything. You will hear from them instantly if there is something wrong with the game. Console players pay $70 upfront and if there is a problem with the game you would certainly be happy to help since they are paying customers. F2P games can rake a lot of money due to some gambling elements but a lot of markets are now banning these things. I think developers at the end of the day just want a more steady revenue stream and avoid the issues with sweaty mobile gamers.

Wait, weren't console games $60 max?

yeah that might be a valid reason for a 5-man team, but not those billion dollar companies if they wanted to, they could make a game 100% ftp, everything unlockable, with 80h+ singleplayer... but they dont since that doesnt print money, but they could potentially make even dozens of those. I also think the monetary gambling elements are actually illegal given the fact that like 80% of the actual players/ppl spending mny on it are underage.

@neon_green_T It looses a lot of money , developers will not make aaa games fully free, why should they when it makes zero cash, those companies would go bankrupt m developing a game even for aaa companies is expensive. 100 million. There is a reason why aaa games are pay upfront for it, would you want to work 10 years for free.

@oo -- I don't think that for example a copy paste of the current Fifa with a new year slapped on it costs all that much (licensing included). Ofc gta6 is a different horse regarding the cost. But I don't have deep knowledge of the actual numbers, it's just imo.

The only way is to bring the CPU and GPU architecture much smaller, to such a point where you can play any windows title on a smartphone, even being able to play triple a titles. Hopefully it's a possibility given what we have seen from amd and it's rdna architecture.

Eh... from what the exynos 2200 has shown with Rdna 2, it doesn't look promising it consumes a lot more power than contemporary Adreno, and mediatek GPU's

Most things nowadays that inconvenience us the consumers come down to money and corporate greed

I LOVE the way you throw smartphones to your hands so smoothly

Also, "Game Optimization" has always been an issue in Gaming in general, but I'm still surprised how The Roblox Platform manages this Optimisation, their "Experiences" literally don't reach 2GB of RAM but they use 1GB of RAM or Less, making them the most appealing to the Gaming Market, Not matter how old is your hardware, Roblox may Run on it (except on old Windows or MacOS and 32Bit devices). So yeah I would like to see Games that can Run on low end hardware phones that seems as good as PC Games 🤔🧐

A problem I have is that free mobile games are rarely not plagued with aggressive ads or micro transactions anymore (especially any retro titles being released by sega for free on iPhone)

Play Genshin impact

@Junaid Ahmad seee I played honkai impact and while I loved the game as a kid iv noticed that looking at it now I’m not the biggest fan of games like that especially any that have a gacha like or yknow microtransactions. Sadly genishen impact isn’t my thing.

​@Junaid Ahmad genshin is actually very greedy.

​@Limpfall 13 genshin actually doesn't have any good end game content. End all the story you got almost nothing to do.

Aether Gaze or Star rail

There’s a few games which look like console games running on mobile; Genshin Impact and Honkai Star Rail come to mind. The biggest reason they’re that good is because they have a settings menu, like on PC. So the simple solution to mobile games looking good: having a graphics settings menu.

I remember back in 2012-2013 we had titles like Dead Space, Mass Effect, Deus Ex, all were high quality games but I also didn't have high end smartphone at the time being. Now I have the S23 ultra and I'm unable to download the game from app store to experience it properly.

Mobile gaming has been filled with cash grabs, those remade idle clickers and even casual games with pop up ads honestly ruined it but it's all monetization for those companies. I don't play much mobile games now but it's sad it isn't what it used to be.

I remember playing N.O.V.A legacy, Spiderman, Batman and so many other good and impressive games with really good stories but now things change a lot with time

I hope more pc developers start porting their games to mobile like dead cells, slay the spire, stardew walley

We might be at a point where just improving the graphics isn't something most gamers (especially mobile) care much about anymore. The best rated game of the year, Zelda, just dropped and it's running only old hardware and it's not gonna be winning any graphical awards.

In my opinion, graphic rewards don't matter as long as the game is good and fun to play, and it's accessible.

it's running on old hardware because Nintendo doesn't feel the need to make a new console

​@Supreme Calamitas in case, mobile game (the big company) not caring about low end device, the good example is pubg mobile, they give low end device a low graphic and fps selection, but it's doesn't work, they just adding more and more skin and effect and make the game laggy

I think it might not win any technical awards, but the art direction is nice. You could release a game with the same quality as that on PS5 and people would still buy it.

yeah, but a lot of newer mobile games look like absolute crap. At least Zelda is appealing art wise…

the phone catch really got me 😆 i love your videos they are amazing entertaning and pretty much 🔛🔝 i learn stuff and i tell my friends youre great!

Freemium was the downfall of mobile gaming. I was playing mobile games since the early 2000s and had a blast, especially after Apple opened the App Store and gave developers a lot of creative freedom. But once freemium instead of paying for games became the standard, the games started to become formulaic. I recently installed emulators for Symbian and J2ME on my phone and went back to N-Gage and Java classics. Most of them are way more rewarding than the newer stuff that came out on mobile.

For me, the games on the phone are to kill a little time while I'm waiting somewhere,тraveling somewhere or on a break at work.When I have free time and I'm playing a game, I'd rather sit on my computer than play on my phone.What I need from a phone is to talk on, it listening to music and playing a game to kill some time,browsing social networks or watching videos and if I need to take a picture of something.If I'm at home and I want to play games, I sit down and play on the computer,If I'm traveling somewhere and I want nice pictures, I take the camera that takes amazing pictures .That's exactly why I don't think it's worth buying the highest-end phones.

For many years the best device I had to play was my phone, therefore I dived deep into game lists to try everything, I had a galaxy S2 advance, a S6, a Redmi note 7 and a S20Fe nowdays. I used to play clash of clans, PUBG mobile and asphalt, also played Genshin Impact for a few months, mobile games are built different they take more of your time, aren't as good looking and often are so full of ads and play to win it's just better to play an old game on an emulator on the android and play console or PC games. When I was 13, seeing GTA SA on the playstore, I thought by now we would be playing several PS3 games that were a big hit on the go. Turns out I was wrong, I'm sure there must be a few good games on the playstore, but I don't want to dive into the ocean of trash that is the playstore to look for one, better get on gamepass or play an emulated game.

Thank you for this wonderful video. Is true to conclude the current market of phones. The phone's prices and the value of the different phones are important to choose the best phones for the people of their budget levels. This video can help people choose their satisfactory phones.

Two videos in less than 24 hours is insane!! Great job Arun!

Feast 🎉

Bro didn't finish the video

yes good

It's not so great It's not a big deal also these youtubers have a team who do everything and these guys have to appear and say those things he have above 14 million subscribers so do you think he is making all these videos by himself

@Richard Ekwu you didn't even play the video, you just want to see comments

I think the reason is that developing good games like gameloft did (trying to achieve console quality games on phones) is just more expensive. Mobile games which say pay 50 bucks to continue right after you open them for reason seem to make good money without even providing anything. So why should anyone put effort and money into a big game when candy crush or similar makes like billions of dollars

2012-2014 was the gaming era with games such as fruit ninja, flappy bird, temple run, angry birds, candy crush etc. I think only candy crush really stood the test of time as it was the least physically/mentally demanding. This doesn’t take away its difficulty.

yes, I'm really happy that I grew up with these mobile games, I've played every game in that list except for candy crush

candy crush lives because activision blizzard bought out King, the developers of candy crush. even so, it is slowly rotting under activision's corrupting presence.

Another old gamer here who have life and responsibilities

Have u try the CODM especially Garena Version

I have been uploading mobile gaming content since 2020 and back then it was amazing, like people always watch my videos but nowadays everything seems to be difficult like I upload every week and I can barely get hundreds of viewers. maybe because I only have 3000+ subscribers but I really feel that people have now realized that mobile gaming is only for convenience and practicality as what you said and I feel sad about this.

I definitely prefer to buy my mobile games outright because I hate ads and in app purchases. Unfortunately most games for sale that I'm interested in are ports of PC games that play a lot better on my laptop.

I think if steam makes something similar to Linux compatibility to arm devices, it can be potentially amazing for phone users. I'd even pay a monthly subscription to play steam games on android natively with my rog phone. Maybe not Skyrim, but I'm sure games like Noita would easily run on good android phones if I can run it at 30 fps on an i5 8th gen laptop with no GPU on battery.

The high-end phones nowadays can play pretty high quality steam games. Skyrim being as old as it is, is likely playable with decent frames. Phones like mine are annoyed when the frames are less than 60, and the best phones rn can do 120fps(basically low-end computers)

I remember having a lower end phone that could run Genshin Impact until the game eventually updated. While my friends could talk about Genshin or stuff that happened there I was left out so there really is a gap when high end games are made that can only be run by certain devices

Thats ur reason to quit gaming completely and start learning new skills every year

Means he escape the matrix

Remember fortnight? Back in 2018 it was only supported on iOS and flagship Samsung devices. You have no idea how left out I was when everyone was literally crazy about it.

@Aditya Narayan Sreejith Is this now a pro or a contra?

@Aditya Narayan Sreejith Runs perfectly fine on 6 year old flagships! 60FPS is no issue at all. Just use low-medium settings.

On the other side we have gacha games and ever since Genshin Impact…they really tried to upper the graphics and investment. Star rail by the same company looks really pretty as well. Sadly this is just a limited amount of game companies

Guess you missed games like genshin impact or albion online... Also the trend of porting mobile games to consoles. Voltage is doing this to a massive success. They release f2p mobile titles with paid chapter unlocks, then after all the main chapters are out they bundle it into a $20 standalone switch title.