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With all the great options Android offers, I'm wondering why he chose a folding one that obviously comes with alot of caveats.

My guess is he was never going to switch anyway, it was just for content.

He said it a couple of times now, the fold creates a barrier between the user and the content and helps him dose off internet.

I also wouldn't pick a foldable yet, but it's finally something new and different from the standard rectangles we've had for a while

My guess too,u just nailed it,the s23 ultra and the up coming pixel 8 is there ,why the flip or even the fold

​@RzExfeLI agree bro

most of the issues you mentioned are either an issue with apple being apple and the fact that a feature (folding the phone) can also have downsides. There are of course tradeoffs but the fact that you're scrolling more because the screen is too little (7:50) is optional, you don't have to fold it to display content, if you want you could not fold it and set it against a stand just like the iphone.

Arun is most likely paid by Apple, he took a chunk of time to market Apple products. Arun gives a pass on Apple and then proceeds to blame Android, despite Apple being anticompetitive

@Electrodexifykeep on hating

​@Electrodexify He's did that, hoping for a 15PM review unit

@jefferykingsley2140  I'm just an individual that notices all the different times Arun markets Apple products in videos that are supposed to be about other products. Arun is bought and paid for, ever since he became buddy buddy with Marques.

cry samsung fan boys , but remember if Arun want he should have compared their performance too where z fold far beyond iphone

I love all the real life examples from actual daily use. Far more practical than just comparing a list of specs!

I liked the comparison, but would think the S23 ultra would be a better phone to compare. You're making hardware compromises when going with a foldable device. Especially in camera. I would love to see this redone with a flagship non foldable device.

0n the other hand you take better selfies with a flip because you can use the main camera.

I was really hesitant using a folding phone. I work through a samsung ambassador program where they gave us the flip3 at work, and then the flip 4. I really thought I'd hate it at first, but after having the flip3 for a year, my main issues were mostly addressed with the 4. The other main issue is the durability though, I had a noticeable tear in my screen in the 3 after a year, and I do have one with my 4, although its a lot less noticeable after a year with the 4. This was after a year in both cases and while my 4 looks a lot better after a year, I think as I approach the next few months it'll become a lot more of an issue that I can't ignore.

From a neutral POV, the S23 ultra or Pixel 7 pro were more suitable for comparison, mostly because I feel like the video seemed to lean more towards highlighting the disadvantages of a foldable phone, not really those of android. Maybe I'm wrong...

The video is on his personal switch from iphone to android, so not a regular comparison video.

@Dusyes that’s what people don’t understand,it was based on his needs and it makes sense since he is the one switching .

You missed the point of the video. The video is for those audience that ask themselves “should I switch my iPhone to a foldable?” It’s not android vs iOS.

Precisely the point...its like comparing apples to oranges...

Bro s23 ultra already beat iphone 14 pm but this vid aint abt that its abt the flip

I find the appeal to the flip phone really is to bring a phone back to being a communication device rather than an all around media consumption device. For someone like me who has no games on their phone and prefers to watch youtube and netflix on a TV or tablet my phone really is just for communciation. I personally would go for a flip for the same reason as Arun, to get away from the noise and simply focus on enjoying life without doom scrolling.

Just buy a brick phone if communication is all you want why even bother to get a fragile flip phone

mkbhd also uploaded a same video yesterday trying to show ios superior something is sus also bare in mind its time for iphone 15 series to launch never expected this from marcues and arun

@don't suggest me a nameAs an iphone user who switched from android I largely agree with all the points he made and I don't think he is sponsored. The timing is a bit sus and I am sure it's intentional, but I don't see the grand conspiracy.

If you already use your phone just for communication, buy an older phone or maybe an iPhone SE, don't see the point in the flip. You get less battery life and more annoyance

I really don't get why some people want to use their phone to do everything... They should leave some for their laptops and IPads. I almost never watch movies on my phone, it's not just enough screen to do that.

I do always wonder why so many tech-tubers glaze over and ignore Apples anti-competition practices. Locking you in to an ecosystem is the opposite of what technology should be doing for us as users, but the review community shrug their collective shoulders and say 'apple be apple'

meh it works

Because 90% of the population buying phones aren’t getting a new 1k phone every year. Maybe once every 6 or even 10 years so it doesn’t really matter. Also, Apple’s ease of use is high priority for most people buying tech because they don’t care about phone performance that much.

You can't have cake and eat it too. Why haven't Android made so many of these "features"? Because they can't. It won't work cross-device and cross-platform. That's why only Apple can do a lot of this continuity stuff. Yes it locks you in, but the alternative is not having the features at all, not having the features work cross-platform.

@FPS Kelly as far as i'm aware pretty much all of the continuity stuff is possible with windows and android if you are willing to spend the 5 minutes to download something like iriun webcam and set it up on your phone and pc (btw iriun webcam basically does what continuity camera does, real useful stuff, i think it's been around longer too) it isn't something only apple can do, though i will admit that because of their tight control over the hardware and software it makes it significantly more seamless (in most cases)

Regarding the laptop-phone interaction and lack of AirDrop, I think that KDE Connect might be a good alternative. I use it mainly to transfer files but it has a lot of features (notifications showing on pc, copy-pasting between devices, controlling media and more)

I use KDE Connect all the time, love the features.

Normally I love what Arun does but even to switch from a flagship android to an android foldable would have the same problems. Wouldn’t a better comparison be a flagship Samsung Galaxy or Pixel instead of their foldable products. (Btw I’m a full apple user but I was looking forward to a better/fairer comparison)

I agree with this

Yes, I agree. Switching from a flagship iPhone to an Android flip phone is like comparing Apples to Oranges (no pun intended). In any case, I've owned the Flip 4, and Samsung's Galaxy S series, and even flagships years older than the flip feels better and more premium. I am on a iPhone 14 Pro Max currently, but as long as you don't count these flips, the android flagships keep up well... and that's the story he should have gone with.

To be fair, Samsung's Smart Switch app works fairly well when switching from another Android phone (even from a non-Samsung one). I know from experience that switching from Android to iOS is a very difficult and buggy process (as I've had to help a friend do this), so it doesn't surprise me that the other way around is also problematic.

Google and Apple don't want us to switch.

mkbhd also uploaded a same video yesterday trying to show ios superior something is sus also bare in mind its time for iphone 15 series to launch never expected this from marcues and arun

Yes Marcus and Arun now are biased to apple which is time to stop watching their phone reviews

So interesting how we have different experiences. I have a razr tho, i watch youtube on my external screen all the time, and even tv shows. Its nice at a restaurant because it is more private and saves table space. Also the crease doesn't seem to cause glare for other viewers. And taking a video from external is easy with the twist gesture. Also propping a non foldable phone up with books, shoes, a water bottle so it can CLUNK down or add that finger thing on the back is so out lol❤

Your newest videos are so good at grabbing my attention while watching as compared to your old videos. I've noticed that in the new videos there is always something new or a new transition in about 7-10 seconds. I am absolutely amazed by this. I watched the video about the wallpaper that damages phones and compared, there was a big difference. Not being negative but something I definitely observed.

I don't think a short attention span is something you want to boast/advertise.

Using the Flip5 - my first folding phone. One thing I have to say, Arun - you realise you can just use the phone as a slab phone too, right? I agree with some of your points, but in cases like "the top screen is smaller when using it in flex mode" isn't actually much of a thing - just use the phone fully open. Really, it's just a normal phone with some extra quirks and features. The third camera is the only piece that I was concerned about, but it's been fine so far. No desire to go back to a slab phone yet

I watched this video on my flip 5 and I barely notice anything because I hate being in photos and the phone generally isn't bad, also you can just use 2 hands to open the phone

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Just hit the dislike button, he should get the message loud and clear.. being a poster fanboy for Apple isn’t a thing anymore.. on the contrary, check mkbhd

LOL YOU FELL FOR THIS GIMMICK!! HAHAHAH!!!

I've loved the MacBook experience, having an Android is definitely something that you might have to keep in mind for file transfers. But since I've never an iPhone, I don't really mind that problem.

By the way, you can use One Hand Operation+ in Good Lock to bring brightness adjustment and other controls to the side of the Galaxy phone, which you can access with a swipe from either edge.

Android does have an AirDrop equivalent now and it's called Nearby Share. I am surprised you never found out about it considering it's right there in the share sheet in this video at 11:23. However, unlike Windows you will need a third party app on Mac called NearDrop to use Nearby Share because Apple does not like to work with industry standards. It's funny that the very reason you cited for staying with the iPhone (the ecosystem) is why I will probably never move over to the iPhone or even the Mac. I really like that Android and Windows work really well with each other and even try to work with MacOS and iOS as best as they can. The only reason they don't work as well with the Apple platforms is because of Apple themselves. Case in point - Windows does allow you to take phone calls from your iPhone or Android phone on your PC using the Phone Link app. Apple only allows this for iPhones because they don't care about you if you use an Android phone. I prefer using platforms and devices that don't have that level of elitism about themselves and just focus on the consumer regardless of which other devices they have.

I aint readin all that

@your dad Yeah you'll see why people don't switch to Apple if you read it

windows also needs the google nearby share app downloaded but yes it works just seamlessly.

​@your dadThat's why you are an iphone user

How is nearby share the industry standard when apple been using air drop for years and android (Samsung) Just got it recently?

Switching from iPhone to Samsung was an interesting experience for me. As a long-time iOS user, I wanted to see what Samsung had to offer and if it could meet my needs better. The transition itself was relatively smooth, thanks to the Google ecosystem being available on both platforms. However, there were a few noticeable differences in terms of design, user interface, and app compatibility. I appreciated the customization options and larger variety of device choices that Samsung provided, but I also missed the seamless integration between Apple devices. Overall, it was a personal choice that allowed me to explore a different side of the smartphone market, but I ultimately decided to switch back to iPhone as it aligned better with my preferences and prior experiences.

Based on your answer, I feel you have an Apple ecosystem built around you and the MacBook or iPad might tell you not to replace them for a Samsung ecosystem. To be fair Samsung has made a lot of integration choices with the Galaxy Book and tab s9 and stuff like airdrop, calling and answering from Windows, universal clipboard, remembering the page you left on your pdf, not to mention literally using android apps directly on windows and stuff are things that are built into windows regardless of wether the laptop is a Samsung one or not. many features are compatible with Samsung midrangers like A54 (any phone that is NOT running one UI core and is 2020 or newer should be compatible) as well. But again Personal preference.

This feels like a chat GPT generated comment 😛

Welcome back to civilisation and escaping the prisons of North Korea

Went from my 13 pro max to Flip 5 and I have no regrets, I love it. And the fact that there are ways to use iMessage on android makes there even less of a reason not to. It's just so fun to use and frankly I've just gotten very bored of iPhone

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Lmao i see these comments n i know most of these people never even bought an iphone and directly post things that they own a iphone and have switched to android n dey r happy lmao😂😂🤣when you r stuck in a os you cant just get into another 1 n feel happy in a short while

​@ashis pradhanLmao its funny people think their opinions matter when they are just blind slave of a particular company products

How do you get iMessage on Android?

@Gojito SSGSS yes even urs doesnt matter

As you stated, I think the transfer problem was because you went from an Apple to an Android. When I transferred from my Galaxy S10 to my S22 Ultra I had none of the issues you had. The transfer had only a few hiccups, usually due to older apps. But, the other issues, especially the Apple ecosystem, can never be matched with an Apple/Andriod interface. Apple to Apple will always win. For obvious reasons.

I love the idea of the Z-Flip as a dedicated work phone if i ever need one because the small folded screen would make it easy to set personal work-life boundaries

I remember the first samsung flip I had a chance to actually hold in my hand. I was considering getting one but I was just concerned about that crease so getting one in hand was a moment. I don't like the feel of the crease a LOT more than even I expected. I love the idea of a folding phone that easily fits in the pocket and it sounds great but the feel of the crease is just soooooooo bad. Thankfully I'm not switching from apple to android (did that way back with the iPhone 4) so right now I'm just sorta waiting on a flip phone that feels good *enough* to not hit that crease and always cringe.

I like how all his negatives about the z flip can be fixed by switching to the s23 Ultra or even z fold 5

He wants the small flip screen on the back an s23 is basically an iphone that doesnt work well in his apple ecosystem and i think he said the z folds are too thick and heavy for him

This video ain’t about that phone, it’s about this one

I think he wants to compare Samsungs latest with iPhones latest

Pit the 14 pro max against the S23 ultra and see the 14 pro max get beaten

@Percy he did that but s23 lost

I had the worst time with face unlock (probably because I use glasses and they glare up). Bundle that you require to pick up the device when set on a table to quickly dismiss a notification made me really miss the fingerprint unlock when I needed to action on it or read from the lock screen. The Flip was made for ppl that use a phone for a phone. Not a power user, not the heavy gamer, not the photographer. That extra layer to open the device also provides a "soft" wall to advert those 3+ hours of screen time we don't really need

I run a work iPhone12 and have a Flip5 as a personal phone. I like both for different reasons but you nailed it with the Flip5 drawbacks - for me though, the fun of opening to answer a call or shut it to end is not wearing off (yet), watching quick videos on YouTube without needing a stand or a case with a built in stand or ring stand is useful (even if the screen is small), and holding it like a old school camcorder to take video means I take longer videos than I ever have before as its so comfortable. The cover screen also let's me use it onehanded which is super useful and is maybe 50% of interactions I have with the Flip. But I wouldn't want it for work use - the iPhone is just so much slicker and better to use when I really need it be working perfectly and consistently. I'm OK accepting some flaws with a personal device though.

Is it hard to use both android and apple?

@ᖴᖇᗴᗪᗪY Its OK as theyre both for different purposes for me. Since I use iOS for work it's fine since I use different apps to Android

I avoided Apple for decades, because it was just too expensive. Then two things happened - first, I purchased a Sony phone which was truly terrible and then someone gave me their old IPhone SE gen 1 and someone else gave me an old IMac. Now Apple have me trapped for life 😂 It all works well and I’m just too old to be bothered to switch - I just want to keep things simple.

I also have an iPhone 13 for work and flip 5 personal, the iPhone just seems boring now. I wouldnt use a flip for work, but im still having a fun time using it as my personal phone

Thanks for the video, I tried it too. I tried to switch from a 14 Pro Max to a Google Pixel 7 Pro. No way, once you are in an ecosystem as good as Apple's - you really have a really hard time. It's not just Mac & iPads here, but also e.g. family sharing, screen time for the kids. There are no good workarounds there.

In terms of video, I don't like using the built-in apps on phones. I much prefer using a third-party app such as Guerrilla / Kinomatic, ProShot or similar apps. For iPhone photo/video transfer, I'm able to use the Windows built-in photo/video import function, or an app such as iMazing. I have always liked the Android file transfer functions though.

I enjoy the hell out of my Flip 5. I had the 4 but quickly upgraded. I have always been team Samsung and android so I have no issues at all. I’m happy with my phone. I think it’s harder for iPhone users to leave unless they are really fed up with the state of Apple iPhone products. I have seen comments of Apple users leaving to switch to android just to get a fresh experience with the Flip 5. So it really comes down to what you are looking to do with the Flip 5

Yup

How hard it is to leave one system or another depends on the user. I never bound myself to any, so I can switch between Android and iOS at any time and miss zero stuff "ecosystem" wise. But I know people that have a harder time, and actually I know more people having difficulties leaving the Samsung eco system to a different Android brand, than that I know people having difficulties leaving iOS. But that is maybe due to where I live. Anyhow ecosystems are like a plague, avoid them because they only exist to make your life miserable the moment you even try getting out of it for whatever reason.

Had everything and was really disappointed, love the Apple integration, love my Apple watch as well. Respect for Samsung but they lost their charm.

have you now? lol

The only way in which I might even think of switching to foldable is in the case of fold, not flip. Because it is practically a big tablet in my pocket. But for a flip, it's really not a big difference than just using normal phone.

I think this would be different if the z fold supported dex. A lot if ecosystem problems with android fade away when you can use wireless dex to just pull things from the phone directly. With that said, it’s still not as convenient as airdrop, so I understand if that doesn’t fix things

Just got the Flip 5 for cheap trading in my Pixel 6 Pro (liked it but to much overheating to keep it). Love the small form factor I can leave in my pocket 80% of the time and then mostly use the front screen. The rest is just checking information using my "matching" smartwatch 6 Classic. I'm not young so I have much better things to do than stare at a phone all day but I do know a lot of people that need to carry a phone but don't use one very much. The combo should last me for years, and since phones haven't made any big leaps in at least five years, I can't waste money on nearly unnoticeable incremental changes.

tip: there is an option in samsung where there are three dots beside the brightness tab that lets you switch on "show control on top" so when you swipe down only once, the brightness tab appears

I was looking for this comment. I change my brightness constantly and always have it this way.

You can swipe with 2 fingers from the top to avoid double swipe.

He is aware but he is now in apple ecosystem so he doesn't know anymore. He is a surprising being

2 key things that I found better on iOS is Apple wallet and hue light built into control center but the feature beyond that was Face ID worked for all my apps for bio metrics security but on android Face ID only worked to unlock the phone

I love the concept of a foldable I just would never buy one until the screens aren't flimsy anymore. I'd rather they stick two glass protectors on the screen halves

Aaww

Same

I really wish there was a way they could just make the inner screen out of glass on the parts that don't move, and somehow seamlessly switch it to plastic in the center where the fold is.

yh but then u get the problem of having a very noticeable separated line when the device is in full mode.

mkbhd also uploaded a same video yesterday trying to show ios superior something is sus also bare in mind its time for iphone 15 series to launch never expected this from marcues and arun

I have been using samsung folds and flips since the first gen and aside from all the expected teething issues i encountered they have only gotten better with each new device they are the best phones i have ever had they just need to get the ultra camera set ups in them

To be honest, I used Android from 2013 to 2019 until I just felt it was slow. Even if it's old it should have worked quickly like people would say. Even if there is much compatibility and bias, I changed to Apple later. Can't say how fast the phone became. Even if the battery is fast to drop I'm still happy that I get to switch from 1 fps BlockMine gameplay to 150 fps Minecraft gameplay.

You could solve the problem of folding the phone for every photo by just not closing it if you know you have to do a lot of photos during different times in the day :)

I just switched a few weeks ago after using an iPhone for almost 10 years to a Galaxy S23 Plus. And I just love it! Together with goodlock it feels like having endless possibilities to customize your phone. I cannot imagine switching back to an iphone for the next few years. But yes. I have to say the only thing I miss a bit is FaceID. Still don't get why no any other company offers a real 3D Scan/FaceID. The 2D Scan is so unsecure that it shouldn't be implemented at all. Just doesn't make sense for me.

Thank you very much for another great video. I would love it if you could do a comparison between Google wallet and Apple wallet to see which one works better. The wallet systems is another reason that knocks me into Apple

Arun doesn't miss his chance of rick rolling us😂

how the hell can you watch a 13 minute video in less than 2 minutes

that's cuz he's never gonna let you down

His fav song lol

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@hanon I came fron the future bro

Hello, love your channel and find the reviews brilliant. I'm thinking of getting a Razr 40 Ultra, have you reviewed it? Or would you recommend it as a slightly cheaper alternative to a Flip 5? Cheers

Interesting that you mentioned signal strength, I've always had 4 bars of signal in my house with every phone I've had... except the S23, 1 bar. Never lost signal though.

bars dont define speed

@T0neTurb0 Absolutely, I think it's more of a display issue because it would sometimes have 0 bars but still work.

Wth s23 ultra we have has better signal than the iPhone I have as well easily. The iPhone is always losing signal too.

I believe there's a setting to move the brightness slider, but there's an easier way to bring down the notifications. Swipe down anywhere on your screen. No need to remember which half of the status bar to swipe from. The face unlock is NOT from Samsung. It's the default Android face unlock. The Galaxy S8 line was the last Samsung to have the IR face unlock. I wish they still had it, but I also like not having a notch in my screen. Honestly, the captured audio from the closed mode sounds better to me. The flipped open audio sounds compressed, but I do like the color saturation more from the inside camera. The outside camera looks washed out. Even in the yoga photo, the inside camera photo would be the one I'd keep despite being a bit less sharp. What I'd like is a case with a nub to help with one handed opening. I know I'll get a folding phone, but I'm going to wait a few more generations. The Fold is currently more appealing than the Flip.

Just hit the dislike button, he should get the message loud and clear.. being a poster fanboy for Apple isn’t a thing anymore.. on the contrary, check mkbhd

@Suman Saha Sharing info is more helpful than just hitting dislike.

@Drew Lakebrink sharing biased polarized info is not.

He literally showed that in the video. Also ASOP doesn't have face unlock. It is indeed from Samsung

I made the same mistake 2 years back switching to flip 3 and it has been very frustrating for all the reasons you mentioned, plus the display started acting out and then stopped working for no reason. basically I think its not worth a switch from an iPhone but if you compare it with other average android phones then it seems like a cool upgrade with some nostalgia to dwell on.  help me choose between android or apple again as you always have 😂 love your channel and content. keep growing. 😁

Been an Android user from the off with the Tmobile G1 (which still works) it's amazing how far it's come. Not sold on foldable phones (but each to their own). Neither am I sold on the customisation. I much prefer the cleaner Pixel series.

Android pairs really well with Windows, Phonelink and Nearbyshare have done wonders.

I've always thought that with any android, their answer to cameras is lets just throw the latest largest sensor in and call it a day, compared to iPhone that can keep with a way smaller sensor and still keep up/beat them out of the box. Yes there are third-party apps especially for android that are better optimised for the sensors but most of us just want to snap a quick photo not fiddle for hours adjusting every little setting to get the best out of the hardware.] and this is coming from someone who has both iphone and android phones so im not loyal to either lol

After the Galaxy S3, I waited to see if the S4 would be worth upgrading to; my brother had the S4, S5, and S6 and just didn’t seem happy with his upgrades year in and year out. So, I was basically done with Samsung a long time ago. I keep up to date with everything Apple puts out and the different flavors of Android phones… and in my opinion, while Samsung phones have innovative hardware, I’ve just never been a fan of their software and the battery issues so many of their devices have easily steered me away from them. If I’m getting an Android (I’m an iPhone user now), I’m going with a Pixel or the Zenfone. And since ASUS isn’t making them after this year, it really only leaves one option (Oneplus phones look great but I personally buy a phone for their photo/video taking capabilities and the iPhone is the undisputed king for it, followed closely by the Pixel line of phones - Oneplus phones aren’t there yet).

Honestly, if i would switch to an Android phone. I would go for Samsung as well and i was already thinking about the Flip phone. I remember fondly using those flip phones from Ericsson back in the day (i believe it was the T10s.) I think the "fold" is too big. I also don't like the iPhone Pro Max (or plus.) I once bought the iPhone 6s+ and it just wasn't for me. Though i sticked with it until the iPhone X came out. Man was i happy with the downsize of the screen. I'm still using my iPhone X btw. After 5yrs. it will be time to say goodbye and i'm going with the iPhone 15 Pro. Sadly enough, that screen will be a little bigger. But it's time to finally upgrade.

Thank you Arun. I've previously owner the Flip 4 for a couple months, before coming to the same conclusion that you did! Flip phones still needs a few years before they can compete with regular phones.

I think the term "folding phone" is really obvious rather than a normal smartphone

I switched from using Android for over a decade to iPhone 13 pro max last year. I spent 6 months with iPhone before switching to s23 Ultra. I see the appeal of iPhone but i find Android integration and configuration options to be superior. I'd love to try a folding phone but i don't want to be stuck with it for 2 years.

honeslty, wait another 4 years before getting a foldable phone, especially from Samsung, by then hopefully most of the common issues with the foldable phones will be solved.

Npc

You are comparing a SUV (Slab phones) with Hatch backs (foldables).

yeah, what if it folds by accident and someone sees your texts

@Cannibal Baboons there is an option to turn off that feature for each app

This channel has come such a long way. The quality has gotten better and the videos are much more engaging. I know he only just recently started making the videos with higher energy but tbh I didn't realize how big a difference it makes. Last night I put on a video from this channel that was only about a year and a half or so old and buddy the difference was night and day I swear the energy in the video was nonexistent and felt like the most boring video I had ever seen. I immediately stopped the video and put on his most recent video (the one just before this was uploaded) and it felt like I was watching a totally different person. Congrats Arun and team. You guys are doing great!

Usually I love your reviews. This one though left a lot to be desired, simply because you chose the most unconventional android for the comparison. It's not even a foldable thing. Some of it was just a Z Flip thing, like using the rear camera. I have a Z Fold and it's miles better, because most of the time it works like a regular phone. And it's a thousand times better than the iPhone.

The smart switch works great between android phones but it can be a pain as some apps you have to relog back into

I think with S23 Ultra you have everything you ask for and more! iPhone feels extremly boring and limited. No matter how much horse power Apple adds the limitations is just killing the experience for me.

Folding phones still have a long way to go and in my honest opinion will never replace the regular phones. This said i feel this video did a good job at highlighting strongly both the advantages and disadvantages, Although i knew Arun wouldn't be permanently switching the reason he gave (ecosystem) is very valid as it is one of the first reasons i (an android user) give when asked if i would want to switch to Iphone.

I have to thank you for this upload Arun, I’ve been tempted to switch to the exact same zflip. Samsung is having a promotion rn where you can get an extra $600 on top of your trade in device. So I was going to get rid of my iPhone but personally I’m too attached to messages on iPhone, apple has successfully bullied me into thinking I need to have a blue text bubble and not green 😔. I wish I could have both a zflip and a 13 pro. I just hate how heavy iPhones have become especially with dealing with a wrist injury, you really understand just how freaking heavy iPhones are.

Oh, I feel sorry for you 🤒. Just don't follow what others have to say about your needs! If you feel uncomfortable holding an iPhone and using it for longer periods, why not try something new? Maybe consider the Samsung S23 Ultra or Xiaomi 13 Pro; these are good Android options in my opinion. Ultimately, the decision is yours to make; there's no need to get caught up in the blue and green bubble - it's all marketing gimmicks. Choose the better side and forget everything else

I really hope the Z Flip 6 will have a spring-loaded button to open the screen. That would be such a time saver!

I’m going through the same search to find an android that works well for me !! And couldn’t find anything worth my time and money , but I am considering the Google fold and pixel , could you tell your opinion on them and if your considering morning to them instead of using Apple ?

Lifetime apple user. Made the switch and have stayed despite the shortcomings discussed, many of which I agree with. Apple is wielding too much control. Lost me when they removed the sim tray -a total power move. Love the flip 4. Compelling design that i like more and more every day. .

I went into a best buy a few months ago and looked down the aisle of phones. Every single one looked the same. I've been using apple since the 5 and stopped at the 11. Little has changed. So little that I think technology has become stagnant and now we need innovation. I got the flip 4 for an msrp thats half the leading phones prices. I made the switch and am happy with it 7 months later. I also wanted a round smartwatch since the rectangle design was also getting stale. So I got a google pixel watch and its really good. The only complaint is that if you put your phone on silent, the watch doesnt copy thay setting. Otherwise, I enjoy my samsung more than my iphone and I find myself spending less time on my phone since the notifications show up on the outside screen. Overall pleased with my purchase.

What you mentioned about the ecosystem dependency is so real. I switched to iPhone from an all Samsung ecosystem (TV, phone, earbuds, smartwatch) and it was so difficult. I couldn't use Siri to remotely control my TV whenever I couldn't find the remote (Bixby is so convenient that you basically don't need a TV remote control anymore, so I ended up not even searching for the remote anymore) With the iPhone everything felt so chunky whenever connecting the devices, not to mention that Samsung smartwatches don't work with iPhone, starting from Galaxy watch 4. I eventually ended up returning the iPhone and switching back to Samsung. It's crazy how you easily you can get stuck in an ecosystem without even realizing it, and then not being able to leave it easily.

I sold all Apple and bought all Samsung but I'm fortunate to be able to do that. Money is the key issue with swapping due to both companies insisting on pricing out most users and locking them down.

iphone does the same, im actually convinced that the samsung ecosystem is apple's fault, bc avery samsung gadget works on ANY android

Samsung and Google home integration is awesome. Samsung has an absolutely brilliant modular smart home app and Google's is very simple. You can use both without conflict and it is so damn convenient.

A button to open the phone would be nice, but would run into so many user errors like accidently opening in the pocket that this feature might come but has to be risk free when it does =)

i thought of this exact thing

Love these new android phones! These last two years have brought great headsets. Looking forward to the pixel 8 next month.

There is problems with buttons idea though first if it’s spring action it could damage the hinges little by little second if it was a fully working mechanism the phone would need to be bigger and it would be significantly heavier

I was worried about getting the fold 5. It's so expensive and different. Four weeks in, and I can't see myself ever going back to anything else.

It was a bit of a pain when I switched to iOS from Android a little over 4 years ago. At first, I didn't really like Apple as much. Once I got past the adjustment period, I've been satisfied. I'm older so customization and all that has lost it's novelty. Of course, you can customize an iPhone but it's a pain in the nether regions and for me, not worth the effort. I work outside around heavy equipment and dirt and dust, so I'll not be getting a foldable. I've seen them, and they look cool, just not for me. I'm in the Eco-System now and am satisfied. I do enjoy keeping up with advancements, and I also enjoy the passion so many of you have for this stuff. Thanks, Arun.

I switched from iPhone to Google and the transition was seamless. Their conversation app is brilliant

7:32 Freeing...Refreshing...

Yeah samsung smart switch trash took me 1hr for my 12 pm to s23 ultra data switching and still it wasn’t properly done

Same, my dad switched from iphone to pixel 7 and it got everything over automatically and easy. Much easier than samsung's smart switch.

I've been a dedicated user of the Opera browser since 2017, and to this day, it remains my top choice. With the recent additions of new features, it has only improved further.

I think you posted on the wrong video, this is not about Opera.

i got the fold 4, best phone ive ever used. it pretty much beat all of the downsides you mentioned with the flip. never going back to basic phones again haha

My next phone is definitely going to be a pixel. A xiaomi would also be cool but you can't buy them at like an at&t deal so a pixel seems perfect for me. Even if I have to get an "a" version

When Mrwhose the boss did a apple vs flip, MKBHD did a better job reminding that its more nuanced and personal..Kudos Marques! Love his quality.. I feel Arun has started focusing more on himself than the viewers..Feels more like a vlog than a tech channel..

It's crazy how much your videos have changed over the years. Instead of obsessing over the specs and what everybody else says ( like most reviewers ), you give us real life problems and benefits of the product. You tell us YOUR expirience, which most actually don't.

Yeah this is what I like a lot about this channel

This is what people don’t understand. He’s not saying iOS is better than Samsung, but an iPhone is what works the best for HIS NEEDS

I always use the slight bend at work for lunch. It's so cool!!! My phone stands up on my tray or table and I can eat and watch shows or movies. I got used to it and I love my flip phone. I got the galaxy buds that match. Everything you mention that you're not excited over......Im used to and they are actually not that bad. Haha. I love my phone so much and everyone around me INCLUDING APPLE USERS ask about my phone. 😂 I find myself trying to fold everyone's phone around me. Flipping my phone makes me feel cool since like I rarely see anyone with the same phone. It can just get awkward when my hands are kind of holding other stuff. Still, I don't have a problem with my phone and every change is fine. I knew the pros and cons of getting a flip before I did and they were never a big deal to me. Before when every phone flipped and texting meant hitting the same key several times just to get the letter you want........this phone is a massive step up from that after all these years. A foldable and compact phone that you can slip in your pocket and not worry about its edges stabbing you when you sit is very good. It's well worth any little thing and the dust isn't going to make me throw my phone. It just means extra cleaning but it's not the end of the world. As for the cameras my sister who has a apple phone likes the photos but I'm always reminding her that when I send videos or she sends me videos they always look so awful because we have different ecosystems. I like my photos that this takes.

I can understand The POV of this comparison isn't about the raw power, but practical usability and comfortable experience. I agreed to many points you mentioned. 👍🏼

he tried to mix ecosystems apple doesn't like you doing that

You should try the fold 5 as your primary phone for a couple of weeks instead. It solves many of your issues and its amazing to always have a phone AND tablet

He is?

Looking to switch over from the iPhone 14 Pro Max to the Z Fold 5 next week. Use to like Android but my whole family swtiched to Apple and bought all the apple stuff like air pods pro, macbook and apple watches which made the Find My app super useful. I think my apple watch and the Find My app will be a huge hit to switching

You should have gone Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra for their best smartphone ! Samsung Quickshare for transferring files from Samsung smartphone to Samsung laptop also works seamlessly. The Samsung ecosystem has laptops, IEMs, smartwatches and more (Dex is also excellent). If you are going to think about leaving Apple, then for me, go Samsung all in to get the best comparison and experience.

2:50 If you pull down the control panel fully and click on the 3 dots on the top left, then click on "quick panel layout", there should be an option called "brightness control" which will allow you to have the brightness bar appear on the initial pull down.

Yeah theres a lot of QoL stuff all these tech tubers miss.

if you watched few seconds more, you'd see that he found it

Thankyou! ❤

that was the point of what he was saying lmao, he said that it gets annoying not being able to swipe once and adjust brightness, and then went on to say that the ability to turn the feature on is an advantage

thanks man

The crease has improved (slightly ) this year, it is a lot better than on the flip 3 9:04

I switched from iphone 13 to the OnePlus 10 pro and i loved it. Transition was seamless and and smooth the OnePlus also feels alot faster!

Arun, have you tried using Google Pro 7? What are your thoughts on their product? I'm an avid Xiaomi user eyeing Xiaomi 13 Pro or 14, depending which lands in first. Greetings to all Xiaomi/Redmi, Vivo, 1 Plus and Motorolla Edge series users. I know you're not moved by the world's best bes phones Smsung and iPhone. Our world is beautiful besides lacking the S-Pen. The IR Blaster controls all gadgets in our space, oh such prowess, MIUI multi window, Stereo Jack, NFC, fastest charging. What more do we lack really!!!!

Firstly, WELCOME TO THE DARK SIDE! I ditched my iPhone 5 for the Samsung Galaxy S9+ in 2018! I was extremely frustrated in the beginning because Android literally wants you to customize everything! I think it took me a year for me to feel completely comfortable with the switch. At that time I wanted the best camera for photos as I don't film many videos. I tested the S9+ against the iPhone 12, or 13? Whichever iPhone was out at the time of the Galaxy S9. Samsung's camera beat Apple's hands down every time. I was especially impressed with Samsung's image stabilization since I'm usually shooting images while I'm on the move, with 1 hand.

i have both iPhone 14 Pro Max and Z Flip5. I must say that my iPhone can't be replaced by Z Flip for I have Macbook Air, iPad, Apple Watch, etc (you know the Apple Ecosystem). But I must also say that there's something about having an android that folds/filps into half that just so satisying. It's like a breath of fresh air. Indeed an example of Jack of All Trades- master of none.

I was in the same situation, but yesterday I returned my Flip 5 and ordered the S23 Ultra. This video clearly addresses my problems. I didn't know this video would be released.

s23ultra is absurdly exceptional

Hi

As an s23u owner, I am seriously considering fold. But once I saw how video-watching experience from inner screen wasn't drastically better than on s23u (that is with no zooming in video,mind you), I changed my mind. Fold's aspect ratio needs to be improved.

That's not even considering that the S23 will last you minimum 4 years with updates, while this flip I'd say that you'd be lucky to last a year

Foldables are still a rather young product. I understand they're fresh and exciting but they're a bit of a trap since they're still very flawed in a lot of ways compared to the tried and true slab smartphone design. People switch to foldables looking for something fresh, but once that freshness wears off they often realize it's a worse overall experience (not everyone though, some people obviously can live with the drawbacks)

As far as phone ownership goes, by this point, the only way I’m really going to impressed now is if I see someone still using an actual Moto flip phone or something from like 2007 lol 😄 - back when phones were maybe less ‘functional’ by modern standards, but given that we had no idea what was to come and were very happy with what we had, they were genuinely sooooooo much more fun, and just low tech enough that it wouldn’t keep you awe struck and glued to it for hours on end watching videos and wasting time, they were literally just - phones, with some neat features, and every phone had different ones, whereas now, everyone has the exact same phone that they need to put that much effort into letting you feel like it’s so uniquely yours and no one else could possibly have ‘your exact setup’ or something… that all just seems so super silly.

From what I think for having a button to unfold the phone, it seemed to be a tiny little risk that it can *perhaps* suddenly unfold the phone when you put your phone in your pockets for example. Let's say that you accidentally clicked on it, you can imagine what's going to happen next, the phone unfolds in your pocket. The only thing you can tell now, is that you have to figure out how to get it out. I think the point that you maybe missing there is that, maybe after the user passes user recognition and with a click of a button, the phone will unfold itself? But hey, I'm giving out my own opinion here, there's no need for a big hate for not mentioning that!

I am using my ip14pm but i would say that the camera is the best and it is smooth but other than that there are lots of restrictions and extra steps. Imagine downloading a video then you need to manually save it in the folder. When Updating an app it is completely unaccessible which is very annoying to me. The alarm clock you cannot see how many hours there will be before the time. Will probably switch to Ultra next year.

Im so glad he talked about good lock. I really want that to be talked so much. Its weird how many fixable (as in those i want to fix) things there are in this world. Its both a good and bad thing. Good coz it allows no nobodies to become big by fixing those and bad coz its so super annoying (coz its not fixed).

Ps: Also btw i want good lock as a pre installed app in samsung phones.

Have a 3 year old Note 20 ultra and a 10 month old Flip 4. I also use an ageing Lenovo Windows laptop with Chrome as default. Find it all works together fine - although I've not bothered to use the new Samsung/Windows link [for picture copy or calls]. I never understand why people with macs bother with trying to compare iphones and android phones. It obvious there's struggle to 'talk' to each other. As I use Google Pictures and Google Drive on the laptop, content easily transfers to either phone. I have Google Home and both phones [and watch 6's] and Google Keep so the whole lot integrates just fine. Once you are stuck within one eco system it is a pain to change. I cannot bear to part with my trusty Note 20 Ultra [512 gb with 400 gb micro sd card - yes I need that much memory!] but my love affair with the Flip 4 is waning and I will trade it in for an S24 next Feb. I enjoy my time with it but the tall screen and lack of 50x digital zoom, which I assumed it would have, means it has go. I was tempted by the bigger cover screen of the Flip 5 - but No, that wasn't enough to tempt me!

I've always thought that the fold was far superior to the flip. I have been reassured thanks to this video.

Arun basically just explained all the reasons he loves Android, got frustrated with folding phones, forgot that he can get a non-folding Android phone, and settled for his iPhone.

The Z Fold 5 may be? 😀 I feel like that addresses most of the screen ratio and camera shortcomings, but hey, I get. Samsung's always urging 'iPhoners' to switch to the flip side. It's great that you know the pros & cons of flipping then or may be you should go full 'Fold' instead👍🏾

Ahhh I LOVE your videos and the rick rolls 😂…. Everyday, I check to see if you have posted a new video 😁, and also, the idea of a flip phone is really cool and I also understand that we should maybe wait a while for the technology to fully develop for flip phones (explaining why apple hasn’t made a flip phone yet.

I work for a phone store and in my opinion foldables are still not "there" as in the point where I could safely recommend this phone over a normal phone because 1000 dollars is not cheap at all I think that in like 5 years I could absolutely recommend those type of phones it's impressive how far we have come but I don't think that it's the best option for now...

Part of what I dislike about Android and why I switched to iPhone over 10 years ago, and you touched upon this (as it's still a problem), is I HATE having to download third party apps to do basic things like easily change settings. I get that customization is the biggest selling point of Android, but I hate the idea of having to do 20 steps just to easily be able to do things like change the brightness. iPhone / iOS is very streamlined and simplistic, and that's what I've always loved about it. Do I wish there was a little more customization? Sure, but to me that comes with far too many tradeoffs. I've also STILL never used an Android phone that doesn't completely bog down after about a year of regular use. I don't know if this is the bloat by most manufacturer customized Android releases, or an actual hardware issue.

You don't need a 3rd party app to do "Air Drop" as Samsung now has Nearby Share, which is arguably better than AirDrop. I am surprised Arun didn't show off that feature in this video, even though you can actually see the option for it come up at 11:23

I really have no idea what you're on about here...

As Linus said: phone cameras were never made to be incredibly high quality. They were made to capture a moment quickly and comfortably

hey, I am a huge fan of your content and I admire every single video you post, but I wanted to say two things, if you wanna try to switch to and android phone, why not try the s23 ultra or the s23 plus, they're much better, second, using apple airpods on a samsung phone still allows their sensor to work normally, I've used them for a fine part of my life on my s20 ultra and the sensor works normally.

I switched to a Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra when they came out... I can honestly say I have a countdown timer on my PC to the Apple Event and finding out when I can preorder an iPhone 15 Pro Max (or Ultra.. whichever it's called).. I'm going back to Apple hands down.